Mid Term Report
We are now half way through the Winter (Q1 January – March) pricing and there is quite a bit going on: New cars have been added mid term and some are pending, We wanted to update you on all the offers we are aware of and open up the discussion of driving a deal.
Abarth 595 Competizione
The 595 Competizione has joined the Scheme, boasting 180 bhp and a 0-62 time of 6.7 seconds making it the quickest car on the Scheme. The new Garret turbo ensures the power just keeps coming throughout the rev range and weighing just over 1000kg means the smiles just keep coming too. The new quad pipe stainless steel Monza exhaust makes such a sweet noise that it’s a surprise the car comes with a stereo at all. Available to Mobility customers as a Manual with an Advance Payment of 
£1095.
VW Golf GTD Hatchback
The Golf GTD Hatchback has joined the Estate as being available to Mobility customers, prices start at an excellent £999 Advance Payment for the 6 speed manual and £1549 for the Dual clutch Automatic. The 2.0 litre diesel engine with 181bhp can reach 62 mph in 7.5 seconds and on to a top speed of 142 miles per hour, economy is an astonishing 64.2 miles per gallon. The understated GTD is the perfect antidote to the more obvious Ford Focus ST The Golf offers a classy understated manner to its hot hath credentials.
Vauxhall Antara Cashback
Vauxhall have announced a £200 discount for Antara drivers that are due to renew their car, redeemable against any Vauxhall car the £200 voucher can be downloaded here:
Vauxhall £200 voucher
Just print it off and take it to your Vauxhall dealer to redeem.
New Kia Sportage
The New Kia Sportage has now joined the Scheme, its always nice to see a brand new car come straight on, so thank you Kia. Prices have increased over the outgoing model and the looks could divide opinion but initial reports are that it will compete toe to toe with the class leading Nissan Qashqai and its cousin the Hyundai Tucson. A full review will follow shortly, the full range pricing is here GDi refers to a petrol car and CRDi to a diesel, grades are 1,2,3 and GT line and KX means 4 wheel drive.
XC60 Update
Since the XC60 joined the Scheme all the talk has been of when it will disappear. There was a period this month when it appeared to have departed but luckily it was short lived and was just the changeover from production schedules that caused the issue. There is no reason to delay placing your order as it will just vanish one day.
Best Offers
Caffyns in Eastbourne are STILL running their £500 off offer for the XC60
VW Inchcape have been offering a £300 discount
Be aware that deals change and may not be offered against the complete range, contact the dealership directly with a polite enquiry.
Please keep us up to date with all offers that you are aware of and remember that Motability is a national scheme and you do not have to stay with your nearest dealership if a deal is avaialble further afield, also many local dealerships match offers to keep the business.
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After careful consideration we have decided to close this post to comments.
It is obvious that certain manufacturers subsidise (or discount) their cars more than others, for a number of reasons including shifting old models from time to time. This varies and currently I would say Volvo offers the best value especially when you combine aggressive pricing with additional dealer discounts.
My biggest complaint about pricing in general is the difference in AP between manual and automatic cars in many cases many people do not have any choice and need an auto.
Perhaps one way around things would be to open the scheme up to any new car with a value of say £25k or £30k rather than limiting to makes and models available now but perhaps that is a decision that manufacturers need to make.
Firstly, I have not written this comment to start a verbal feud among us. I just want to tell you all, what I decided to do. NO I did NOT ask/ demand for 40k or 50k/ 60k cars to join the scheme.
I have written a respectful detailed email to motability, 1st I told them that I am grateful for the scheme and I am not complaining but making realistic suggestions.
I asked Motability to allow car manufacturers to add more of a diverse selection of cars/SUV’s on to the scheme, even if they are slightly out the of 25.000 cap price. I did not ask for the cap to be raised to 40.000 or 50.000 pounds but I did ask, for cars or SUV’S of the similar price of the Volvo XC60 (31.000- 35.500) to be added on to the scheme
Such as the ( Land rover evoque SE & SE TECH/ BMW X3 SE / Discovery sport SE & SE TECH) Those were the examples I chose because before the 20% VAT added, the Evoque is 29,120.83 and Discovery Sport SE is £28,675.00 before VAT.
I did highlight that the Volvo XC60 has been a popular choice, among motability customers/ drivers and carers. This shows that there is a high demand, for different cars/ SUV’S, MPV’s to be added on to the Motability scheme.
I also told them that ” SOME” people would be able/ willing/ to pay a slightly higher but reasonable advance payment (3000-3500) for the vehicles in the higher bracket of the price cap. If some people have the financial means to afford a slightly higher AP, they should be allowed to do so. As some motability customers do work or have the ability to pay reasonable advance payment (not 8k or 10k).
I also asked motability to consider making a,smaller price difference between automatics and manual cars AP. As it puts auto licence holders and drivers at a disadvantage, when choosing a suitable vehicle.
I also explained to Motability that, their current £25,000 cap is not in line with current inflation rates. I did ask them to consider, adding the or some of the SUV’S which I mentioned above.
I don’t know if any of these requests or questions will be answered or accepted but I chose to try. I like this website but we know, that which motability car are not working for motability or have any say over the cars which join the scheme.
So I think WE all (Motability customers/ drivers/ carers/ appointees) should collectively email motability in a decent / respective but firm manner, with our requests/ questions/ grievances. As a group of service users they might take notice and start making positive changes or they may just ignore us ( don’t let that put you off). We might be leasing via our DLA/ PIP but we are still paying customers, who should be able to voice our opinions and request realistic changes. So please do email Motability.
If you decide not to email Motability but you are unhappy about the direction the scheme is going into, then please don’t complain to others on here about it ( that’s just pointless)
The Evoque has been on the scheme before. You could argue that it’s inclusion is what caused the price cap to come into place. One particularly greedy Motability customer went to the press complaining he couldn’t have his Evoque with 20″ wheels as he also wanted the Technology Pack, a pack which included 19″ wheels as standard.
Unsurprisingly, this didn’t go down too well with the Daily Mail (spit) and Motability responded with the cap.
Land Rover won’t give discounts like Volvo have with XC60 so there’s no way their AP would be as low as £3500 even taking into account their strong residuals.
Thank you for your reply,
I have only been a Motability customer for three years, thou I did hear and read about certain Motability customers greed and the daily mail article.
Going to the press complaining about, wheel sizes? Seriously? Well I hope he/she is now really content with their car and their wheels. That’s if she/he still has their Motability element of their DLA!
It’s certain people who truly ruin it, for the masses of people. I think it’s immoral that every honest Motability customer has been punished for, the actions of a few dishonest/greedy people. It’s these dishonest people who, gave the media and the government the ammunition; to target all of us (motability customers) with
Simon you are right that Land Rover, might not have a low advance payment; I used 3500 as a reasonable example figure. Motability and Land Rover/ BMW etc could discuss realistic but accommodating advance payment amounts between them.
Motability could also send a questionnaire out to customers, asking our opinions about AP/ New cars joining the scheme/ proposed cars under consideration for the scheme etc.
Lulu,
I agree with everything you say especially the point about the price difference between manual and automatic cars. Having to pay £1000+ extra for an auto is more than excessive. I’ve even noticed that sometimes the additional cost of an auto on the scheme has been greater than the manufacturers list price. An example of this is/was the Citroen C4 Picasso. Some auto C4 Picasso’s on Motability were £700 dearer than the manual despite Citroen only charging £500 list price.
As autos are so much better nowadays lots of private buyers are switching from manuals pushing up the values of autos and it’s about time Motability did something about this price difference.
Regarding the AP of cars; yes we should be able to spend more upfront if we want to. I couldn’t agree more. For an example of just how much Volvo are discounting the XC60 nowadays, when it was on the scheme previously before the cap the AP was around £8000. I’d expect the Disco Sport or X3 would be around the same.
I do hope Motability reply to your email, you certainly deserve a comprehensive reply and I look forward to reading what they say.
All the best,
Simon
Hi All
One important point which must not be overlooked is since the Cap was introduced, the AP on some car gone down significantly, I mean I pushed the manufactures to offer more discount to motability as they want to sell their car and motability is massive stake holder.
Example as quoted, Volvo XC60, in 2012 I paid more than double what I paid this time.
other option remains viable if people are willing to pay more is to lease or purchase (zero Vat) much might be cheaper and certainly worth exploring ..
Thank you for taking a stand.
Thank you, hopefully many others will too.
Very well written. I can’t understand why Motability panders to the Daily Fail brigade and instead makes it’s own decisions on what is on the list. Do we tell their readers what they can and cannot lease? The point about the cap not being increased inline with inflation is a good point as car prices have increased steadily over the last few years. I will also email them and suggest others not happy to do the same.
Thank you Stewart,
Yes you are right, motability did pander to the media/ others, which was wrong for them to do. Thank you for emailing them, hopefully we can make a little positive change together.
I will let you all know, what motability says in response to my email.
We are far from unhappy in the direction of the Scheme, in fact we firmly believe that it has never been so healthy in terms of choice and value. Forget the so called politics, the daily mail and the rebel rousing, the reality is that the pricing cap has only served to drive down Advance Payments. We do not understand what would be achieved by adding the three cars you mention and raising the cap price, this would serve to drive prices upwards across the Scheme. As the prices you have quoted are for manual cars, presumably the automatic versions would not be available which would cause a further issue, regardless of where you place the pricing cap the axe has to fall.
If you want these cars added for the sake of demanding choice then you are entering dangerous waters as while Motability is not part of the Government it is a national charity incorporated by Royal Charter (Motability Operations operates under contract to Motability). In order to join the Scheme, as we all know, you have to be in receipt of high level Mobility payments so it is open only to a small percentage of the population and there are a great number of benefits; the PIP £2,000 transitional support package, financial help towards advance payments for those that qualify, the support on offer should you need to be in hospital for a long period and your mobility payments are suspended (1100 customers benefit from this each year), the ability to terminate a lease should your payments suddenly stop or your condition or personal situation changes (60 000 customers terminate early each year), but clearly price is a major consideration:
Independent analysis shows that the prices of the top 50 models available on the Scheme were, on average, 25 per cent (over 40 per cent including VAT/IPT relief) cheaper on a like-for-like basis when compared to several other major leasing companies.
Should you wish to join or indeed remain on the Scheme your vehicle is not funded by the Government and you are at liberty to spend your own money in advance payments for any vehicle that is on the Scheme. We feel that the list of vehicles has never been more comprehensive and there is a vehicle that can satisfy any need, the Scheme is based on need, should you want a car that is not listed then other options are open such as a private lease or the purchase of a car free of vat should you be a wheelchair user and the vehicle requires modifications that are ‘permanent and substantial’.
Well said. I think the choice is fantastic. Yes there is cars that I want that aren’t on the scheme but there is alternatives. Please stop being greedy, you sound like spoilt brats to be honest, ‘I want an evoque, it’s not fair’. In my opinion, I think you want these cars on the scheme because you can’t afford one. Keep up the good work Motability. I’m on my fourth car and can’t fault them.
Cthomas 957,
I find it amazing, that you can’t have a opinion about this subject without the name calling! If you want to be petty and start name calling, I have a few different names in my head, that I can call you but I won’t (I’m better than that)
We being greedy? What a load of tosh! I am asking the for choices of cars to be expanded and for the advance payments of autos to be a few hundreds more than, the manuals instead of 1400 or 1500 more.
You think we want these cars because we can’t afford them? That really does not make any sense.
I guess if that’s your mind frame, that would mean that you cant afford a car either, that’s why your on the scheme right?
There are alternatives for you but that does not mean, that there are alternatives for everyone else! but your okay, so why care about others right?
Oh and those three SUV’S were only three examples, of 12 vehicles I recommended, the others were
Ford Edge
Lexus CT
FORD VIGNALE
Performance golfs
Audi Q5 SE Model
Audi A4
Lexus NX
Audi A5
Mercedes GLC
One of the cars on this list is, 25,900 but its not on the scheme, so don’t claim that me/ we are being greedy; I just would like more of a a choice for my monthly allowance. (especially in the autos, as I can only drive an auto)
I never called anybody any names and I am sorry to hear you are upset by my opinions about the fantastic service we already get. You’re right, I can’t afford a top the range car but my wife does own her own secondhand car. I also drive an automatic car and paid an advance payment of £1995, if I’ve got an issue with that then I should of just ordered a GTC for £49, bargain! I would be over the moon if there was more choice and would too appreciate autos being cheaper, but like I said there is plenty of alternatives. If there is a car on the scheme that is an auto and out of your price range then motability will assist in the ap, providing there is no comparable car on the scheme to suit your needs, sounds fair to me. I have more issues with people losing there benefit transferring from dla to pip who really need the help, instead of searching the net to see what model of car I can’t get but request I should. But don’t forget, this is my opinion and not fact.
“Please stop being greedy, you sound like spoilt brats to be honest”
Please don’t back peddle now, you said what you said. I would consider the above naming calling.
Upset by your opinions? No I’m not. Its just the harsh/ distasteful/petty deliverances of your words, that I found unneeded.
You choose to spend £1995.00 on a car but others can’t choose or request other cars? that’s a interesting concept
“I have more issues with people losing there benefit transferring from dla to pip who really need the help, instead of searching the net to see what model of car I can’t get but request I should.”
You don’t know me so you haven’t got the first idea, of the issues and worries I have when it comes to disabled people/ this government and the benefit system, so just keep your ill informed assumptions to your self.
I will not will be replying to you again, it’s time consuming and pointless. I will agree to disagree with you.
What are you on about???? Those were my opinions not assumptions. Maybe I have a bigger appreciation for the charity than others. Suppose truth will always hurt. Nope, still see no name calling…
Cthomas957
With respect your statement includes both opinions & assumptions..eg “please stop being greedy” is an assumption made by you that people are being greedy,however your opinion that people “sound like spoiled brats”is just that an opinion which of course you and everyone else is perfectly entitled to however ill informed..(OPINIONS express judgments that must be supported with evidence to be considered valid:)whereas (ASSUMPTIONS refer to things we believe to be true:).it would be helpful if you learned the difference before commenting, otherwise there is a slight chance some could view you a bit ignorant.. That by the way is an opinion not an assumption.
Bigship and Lulu come across as the same ‘person’ to me.
Getting into a professional Troll type flame war ?
If not, please get back to what this site should be about.
Susan Stuart,
What are you on about?I find your comment simply staggering.
How you came to your opinion that i am getting into a professional Troll type flame war(whatever this means)beggars belief.
I call it healthy debate,Q.what constitutes an internet Troll.A.first the meaning of the word internet Troll is subjective,however a couple of common descriptions are 1..”Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”Or 2“Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it’s the internet and, hey, you can.” there are more descriptions.
However i don’t believe i fall into any of these descriptions and unless you can show supporting evidence to the contrary i suggest you withdraw your slur because if not your opinion is without value.
Susan,
That was such a time wasting unintelligent response, I cringed reading it.
Troll type flame war?? What utter nonsense
I can talk about what ever I choose to, so please to tell me what to do.
Not even going to take the bait…. Enjoying my car though.
Cthomas957
I am with you 100% on this! Bet that surprised you! lol. If you start at the beginning of the Motability vehicle search there are 2188 vehicles to choose from. If there isn’t a vehicle that suits from that the problem must lie with the searcher not what is available. Why would any one want an Evoque anyway? Practicality? No. Visibility? No. Reliability? Don’t go there. Can only think of one.Poseability!!! Yes got it. You’re correct. Spoilt brats jumping up and down. “I want an Evoque, I want an Evoque!” Grow up before you get your legs slapped!
Ian,
There is so much wrong with your comments its hard to know where to start and to be honest i have lost the will to explain, for i suspect any opinion or explanation contrary to your view will be lost on you.
So hands up i give in and we will have to agree to differ.
I wait to be enlightened by your obvious superior intelligence and opinion. It is obvious to all that you cannot cope with differing points of view. Little control freak hiding behind Big made up name. Is there not a car with a long enough red bonnet?
Ian,
Thanks for waiting to be enlightened by my superior intelligence lol,its nice of you to acknowledge it, so thanks again.By the way I’m being sarcastic in case you didn’t spot it!!
However i must add that you do fit into nicely the description of a internet Troll with your resort to name calling and insults.
Finally its not my fault you come across as lacking in intellectual debate and as a result you resort to the lowest common denominator and that is if you can’t beat them.. insult them and call them silly names,i think your statements give a reasonable indication as to what sort of person you are.
Ian
I’m not going to, give you a long/detailed response because it will just go over your head.
Funny, how you chose to ignore the other cars I had written down in the list and the other issues I highlighted. Some of you’s are just so focused on the Evoque part.
Furthermore no one is forcing any of you to email motability, so what are you so emotional about?
Cthomas957 – Agree completely on your points the phrase ‘careful what you wish for springs to mind’
Motability provide a fantastic service with a wide variety of cars to suit all tastes and needs
With you all of the way on this, this is a forum to exchange information on the vehicles and deals on offer.
Its being lead into a ‘us and them’ troll situation
Which Mobility car,
I think you are missing the point,I think the scheme is very good, however i think it could be better still,and although you dismiss the “so called politics”it is in my view precisely this that is holding down its potential to become an even better scheme.
I think Lulu makes some excellent points,I happen to think there shouldn’t be anomalies in the scheme regarding caps,which ever way you spin it it doesn’t make logical sense,you actually state in your post that you feel the list of cars have never been more comprehensive and there is a vehicle that can satisfy any need.May i draw attention to “SATISFY ANY NEED”,this is of course one of Motabilities core values however by placing an upper value cap it is not satisfying any budget,so basically there is a caveat (satisfy any need depending on budget)sometime in the future if they remove the upper cap (thus removing this anomaly,by the way i don’t expect this to happen anytime soon)then it would logically follow you would see an even better more comprehensive choice of vehicles,why wouldn’t anyone like to see that?unless they have an ulterior motive.
Thanks big ship,
I really thought I was just making, certain honest and realistic suggestions. You are absolutely about, Motability core values and the rest of points you hight lighted.
I think this topic is not be spoken about on this forum, there clearly is ulterior motive.
Which Motability car,
Thank you for your reply,
“We are far from unhappy in the direction of the Scheme, in fact we firmly believe that it has never been so healthy in terms of choice and value.”
You have the right to feel that but it does not mean that every Motability customer, feels the same as you. There are customers here, who are complaining often about the huge price differences between the autos and manual advance payments.
There is lack of engine and car choices when it comes to autos, there are some customer who have further struggles finding a suitable automatic WAV. So please don’t speak on behalf of every customer.
“Forget the so called politics, the daily mail and the rebel rousing, the reality is that the pricing cap has only served to drive down Advance Payments. ”
Yes the cap might have driven down the advance payments for some customers but not all, lets be truthful about that.
So called politics? There is nothing so called about, what has happened to the Motability scheme. It’s a reality, decisions were made on the basis of a article on the daily mail and government pressure. The only truthful but weak excuse Motability had was, the fraud cases among the scheme; which research showed the numbers were extremely low.
Let me use another unrelated but some what related subject (benefits). After almost getting take to court, the DWP decided to show the figures last year of the large number of sick/unfit/ disabled claimants who died; shortly after having their ESA stopped. Was that these so called politics, as well?
Or how about the large number, of disabled people who are being re-assessed for PIP and losing the benefits? and having to appeal against the decision to get it reinstated again? That must have be so-called politics as well. There has been a clear attack on the disabled since 2010 and lets not pretend there hasn’t been or play it down please.
Rebel rousing? Lol so having a say/ a public say/ a opinion and asking for change is rebel rousing? I just thought it was a human right/ right to free speech. If you want the users on this website to be censored, you should just say and I will avoid using this site. No doubt you will delete my comments, as you don’t want the rebels raising up against the establishment lol.
Out of curiosity, what was your reaction; when the daily mail article was written?
Motability operations is a great scheme but please lets not pretend that its flawless! Lets also get rid of the myth, that its is a charity because any intelligent person who has the internet & researches knows it not ( its a huge car leasing company). So I’m not going pretend that, Motability is doing me any free favours because they make thousands off Motability customers and rightfully so because they are a business and that’s their aim to hit yearly targets etc.
“the Scheme is based on need”
Yes it is, but it should be based on the different needs of every disabled customer. Every customer has a different need, for different things, which a few cars and a few manufacturers can’t provide.
Furthermore wasn’t the scheme always based on the needs of the disabled, even pre 2012? It must of been because, the honest genuinely disabled people was not all complaining as a mass.
“should you want a car that is not listed then other options are open such as a private lease”
Why should we have too? I am physically disabled and I work ( like other disabled people who are able to work) So I should be able to make reason requests/suggestions for new cars to be added to the scheme, why shouldn’t we? I mean we are paying for this from our mobility component.
I have read through this thread with interest.
I can agree and disagree with points on both sides of the argument. Motability are free to offer whatever vehicles they wish to, after all disabled people are not forced to use Motability. However freedom of choice of the individual comes into play.
However it could be a case of be careful what you wish for.
I think we are all in agreement that this (and the previous coalition) government are working to a ‘disability bashing’ agenda. That should be obvious to most, if not all disabled people.
The problem also being that the vast majority of the non-disabled don’t care a fig about the disabled. As long as they are alright that’s fine in their eyes and probably more succinctly, in their votes at an election. The politicians know this and will play to the non-disabled majority by another round of ‘disability bashing’.
Now remember dear old George at Number 11 has his ‘big day’ next week (well, one of them as he gets a second bite of the cherry with the Autumn Statement). One doesn’t need a degree in rocket science to know that if he can squeeze more out of certain people without it affecting the (voting) majority then he will. Oh what an easy target Motability is. Vat at 20% could be charged on all scheme vehicles. No more free Vehicle Excise Duty for the disabled. No more VAT free WAV conversions etc etc.
Perhaps now is not the time to be seen to be arguing amongst ourselves. Politicians after all love a ‘divide and conquer’ scenario. We have provided the Chancellor with the ‘divide’ and just watch him conquer. You can almost hear Osborne say ,as he puts 20% VAT on disabled vehicles ‘No more disabled people driving around in state funded new Range Rovers when hard working families can only afford a second hand Ford Focus’. (Yes we know that is not the case, but watch the government MP’s nod and cheer at that). Watch the non-disabled think ‘good – at least the disabled are now on a level playing field’ (yes I know and you know the situation, but to the majority of non-disabled it looks like we disabled get state funded ‘free’ cars and the government does nothing to dispel that myth).
Wanting more ‘sporty’ or luxury’ cars on the scheme will not be on anyone who matters agenda, even though MP’s love having their photo taken handing over the keys of a Motability car to a constituent. However does this win them votes at an election? Most likely not, particularly from the non-disabled majority. What would no doubt cost them votes would be the sight of an MP handing over the keys of a Range Rover or Golf GTI etc to a Motability customer. And that is why the current ‘status quo’ with Motability will remain.
Its all about perception and politics in the end.
Paul,
I think you make some excellent points particularly your points about Range Rovers or Golf GTIs.
However your last comment “its all about perception and politics in the end”is in my view spot on and is the crooks of the matter around the obvious anomalies that currently exist in the scheme.
Lulu you are 100% correct, I have brought up the same point you have, maybe not as eloquently but along the same lines, we are disabled and receive a benefit we are entitled to, we can spend that benefit how we wish, it is not a charity hand out, and I will for one not feel guilty or worry about rocking the Murdoch or whoever’s twisted media boat for a witch hunt that makes headlines for the haters, mobility is a good scheme but it could be better, as someone pointed out some cars work out more expensive on the scheme than contract hire, mobility have huge buying power and could put on those cars you mention without forcing up the AP on the entire range, look at the well mentioned XC60 on here, that car is Volvo’s biggest selling vehicle, so if they can discount it to mobility why can’t Audi and BMW do the same, when you here words like greedy & spoilt bratt, it makes me smile, I suppose they were the same people that would smile when they saw my grandad go pass in his duck egg blue three wheeler, and think he’s lucky to have that, we have come along way in disability rights, let’s not let a small ignorant jealous minority make us all feel we are lucky for what we get, we are already at a disadvantage in an able bodied world.
I see another sporty car (abarth 595 comp) available for the disabled passenger and no
more for us disabled who can only drive autos, poor show motability.
Daz, there are 930 auto cars of all types on the scheme which is pretty good I think.
Hi, but my point is a car should only be on the list if it is available to ALL motability
customers. Namely as a manual and an automatic of the same trim.
,Hi again, just to add= 1858 manuals and 930 automatics, that seems like a
totally unfair balance of choice (also that many autos are up to £1000 more).
I know that I risk getting a sharp response to this post, but here goes anyway. I need an automatic, and have just placed an order with Motability for my next car. I was pleased to have a choice from nearly a thousand models, starting from a city car at less than the weekly DLA/PIP, ranging up to large 7-seaters with APs of up to £2999, and a breathtaking variety of cars in between. I did not bother looking at the manual cars, as they are not useful for me. My selected car, the new Ford Galaxy Titanium X, is an incredible deal compared to any other way of obtaining the car, and I thank both Ford and Motability for making this offer available. While I also don’t like having to pay a large extra AP for an automatic, it is surely merely a reflection of new car prices (and indeed leasing deals from sources other than Motability.) Now this comment may also get me into trouble, but I guess it’s a question of whether you consider your glass to be half empty or half full:)
Hi, Andy, finding your choice is great if what you want is on the list
and of course available when you have to start the lease.
But the choice is still unfair, my point is if theres an automatic choice
of a model as well as a manual then it should be made available.
Andy, from your choice of vehicle (Ford Galaxy Titanium X Automatic) I can see that you’ve paid a minimum advance payment of £2895, being able to afford this will of course give you a vast range to choose from on the mobility scheme when needing an automatic but most people can’t afford nowhere near that so their choice is vastly reduced. I’m not having a go at you just pointing out that the choice for automatics is dependent on budget.
Neil, I agree that I am of course lucky that price is not an issue, whereas space is. But if I was limited to £250 I could have a choice of 2 different 7-seaters in 4 models, as well as over 200 other models. This wouldn’t be possible without the Motability scheme. I agree that requiring an automatic does stretch the budget, but that also applies in the other world outside Motability. However Motability, in its charitable role, will provide grants towards APs where the required car is unaffordable. All in all, I wish my circumstances were such that I didn’t qualify for a Motability vehicle, but as I do qualify, I truly appreciate what Motability achieves with the car manufacturers.
Anyone explain why any manufacture don’t allow 4×4 Pick Up truck like Nissan Narvara or Mistubitai L200 on Motabilty Sheme?
I live in the countyside and want a pick up truck rather than small 4X4
Here are a couple of things I’ve observed over the last day or so, the number of automatic cars on the Motability site has gone up from 903 to 909, (anyone know which ones are new?).
Also the Volvo Motability pages don’t show the V70 or XC70 at all, just V40, V60 and the forum favourite XC60.
It’s annoying isn’t it, when you go to the mobility car search tool and the number of cars at the bottom goes up and down and you have no idea what the new additions/removals are. The should have a “recently added” and “recently removed” section.
Neil I was thinking the same thing just the other day. Is there a way we can make suggestions like this to the people who update the motability list?
Contact Motability operations either by clicking on the “contact us” button on the main page of their web site and filling in the online form (I have done this in the past to make a suggestion) or ring them and speak to an adviser, they are alway happy to receive helpful suggestions.
Toyota rav 4 hybrid is on
Many thanks – getting quite exited about this until the Toyota website shows a 800kg braked trailer limit , no good for our caravan.
The other Ravs seem fine for towing though.
Whichmobilitycar, while this forum has been invaluable to me and others I feel we would all benefit from a more interactive experience, can I suggest you start a Facebook page up, that way we can share our knowledge and experience easier with others ie post photos and videos etc. It would be easier to admin as well as you could make certain people administrators to help you vet and run the page. Just a thought.
Neil,
Agree a facebook group would be the perfect forum platform, will look into setting up a group with membership and an element of control as the last facebook group was closed down due to a bombardment of unsavoury posts.
Brilliant, if you have enough trusted admins when setting up a Facebook group any unsavoury posts can quickly be removed and any unwanted people banned from the group, also you can set it up so ALL posts have to be “approved” by the admins before they appear on the group, that way you FULL control of what is posted and seen by all group members. I look forward to seeing an expanded whichmobilitycar forum.
Spoke with DS about the new DS3 range coming onto scheme few weeks ago and was told they proposed the entire range including the performance models be added but was out their hands, just had confirmation today that the performance models have not been added to the list so its motability calling the shots for cars being added not the manufacturers.
That is very disappointing. Why can we not have the cars we want. I currently have the Vauxhall GTC 200ps model which is a great car, but next year would like a change. However the fact that most cars like this are excluded means I will probably source my own car next year when my deal is up.
Abarth have added the 180bhp competizione model for £1095, I’m guessing its due to new model coming this year but very nice, record Monza exhaust that has a deep growl, 0-62 in 6.7secs, koni shocks and brembo brakes. Has to be up there with the best hot hatches on the scheme at the moment.
Happy new Reg day !!!
Any news of price for the new Tiguan?
If anybody has any insight on the Mazda 3 2.2td 5 door hatchback to help me out of confusion I would really appreciate it please. Thank you.
Hi jane have had the mazda 3 2.2 diesel for 7 months now, amazing performance from the superb engine. real world mpg just under 50 , ride quality is very good.
nagatives are lack of storage in door pockets , & there is no height adjustment on passenger seat.overall though would recommend it.
ps burrows of wakefield are giving £250 cashback.
Thank you Alan, very helpful – have seen reviews saying about real world fuel consumption but some were contradictory, is your figure urban, combined or extra urban as I currently have a 2litre older model insignia and if I can get 50 or just under as average that would be brilliant as mine is 38, lanes and finnicky drivets don’t help! Door storage not a problem, means less clutter and hardly have any passengers so that’s not a worry either. What is the noise residue like 60-70mph on motorways as some saying loud but my insignia is noisy! !?
The mpg figure quoted is is for combined (brim to brim fill).though can get easily above 60 on motorways by not exceeding speed limit.
road & wind noise on motorways is not the quietest ever,but would say it is about average for the type of vehicle.The engine is very quiet at any speed even under brisk acceleration, almost petrol like.
Thank you Alan, your help is much appreciated. It was noted that the engine was quiet as had to check with dealer that test car was definitely diesel! ! Guess each vehicle will get road and wind noise to certain degree as its a fast moving object! !
Oh and sadly I don’t live anywhere near Wakefield , my dealer isn’t offering that! !!
Just ordered the VW GTD Oryx White, Extras – 95% Tints £90, Apple Car Play £125 and Sports & Sound pack £245.
Delivery in roughly 12 week, cant wait!!
I think you did well getting Oryx. I was previously told only flat and metallic colours available on Motability, not “special” colours which I think Oryx is.
I had to pay extra for the special colour which was the difference of a metallic colour it was £415. It is quite a bit granted, but it looks stunning in oryx white and I couldn’t resist.
Imminent GTD will take 20 weeks
Did you manage to negotiate a reduction on the AP??
hi just some info .my brother in law had a pacemaker and defibrillator fitted just before his 70th birthday and had to fill in a form to get his licence for 3 years on the form it asked about a pacemaker ,he then got a letter saying his licence was revoked for 6 months his mobility car had to returned .he has never had an accident or blacked out .he now has a car again .But it shows how easy it is to loose your car
I lost my licence briefly after having a seizure. Overall things worked out well. My wife got her driving licence and I now have mine back too. It now means my wife can help out with driving. This has become essential as my chemo treatment is 160 miles away and I’m in no fit state to drive home after. Just hope all goes well when I need to transfer from DLA to PIP.
Would love to see the new alfa giulia on the scheme when it’s out 🙂
Hi heard that the BMW X1 is likely to be released in April 16 on motability anybody else heard any rumours?
Same here. I was told by BMW that they were 90% certain it would appear on the scheme on 1st April. Thats why I have been holding off the XC60 for the next 5 weeks as we are replacing our car!
I too have heard from Motability that BMW X1 will be on the scheme next quarter.
Can anyone hazard a guess at what the AP will be? Do you think it will be the same or more than the active tourer?
I think only 18d model will go on – i reckon SE, Sport in sDrive versions and xDrive in SE only. I think it will be optimistic to see either the xLine or M Sport versions. I don’t think any of the 20d versions will make it, which would be a surprise as other car makers are offering 190bhp diesel engines. Either way I am hoping for the xLine sDrive (Auto) at best probably with an AP of £2999. Keeping my fingers crosses as I am holding off the XC60. I will be well cheesed off if the X1 doesn’t come on and the XC60 goes off on April 1st!!
Thanks for your insight, Zaheer. I’ve been holding off also, so I hope for your sake and mine that the X1 makes it on in April. (Fingers crossed)
Hi I am hearing rumours from BMW that the BMW X1 will be released on motability in April 16 can you confirm this please.
Just ordered the GTD
Hi Darren nice car! How long did they tell you you’d have to wait before you’d get it out of interest?
20 weeks
Nearly ordered it, but I just don’t do enough miles to warrant a diesel, at best do around 6k a year mostly city driving. Gone for R line edition instead, long wait though! Middle of May!!
Hi Nick. It doesn’t matter whether you do a few or many miles, the 150ps petrol is more efficient than the GTD’s diesel engine! There’s only 0.7secs difference in acceleration, so overall, I’d say the petrol engine is the best choice!
The wheels are also larger (wider) on the R-Line Edition than those on the GTD or GTI. I’ve not seen many R-Lines on the road, so it’s somewhat exclusive!
I think if I hadn’t have already ordered my GT, the R-Line would have been the best choice. Having said that, the GTD does look the best from the front, but only just.
Hi Peter, very true about the efficiency of the petrol engine, but my initial worry was about the mpg figures – the gtd has better stats, but only if driven on longer runs for the engine to fully warm up and that ruled me out!!
I’ve not seen a R Line out on the roads so feel like I’ve ordered a bit blind with it!! Dealer has one coming in next week so will go and view when I get current car mot tested, and they also matched Inchape offer!!!!!
A r line is basically a gt edition apart from it has r line badging I looked at it before ordering the GTD you get far better spec with the GTD .
I take it you must have ordered a manual? The mpg for extra urban (motorway) is 65.7mpg for both the 150ps petrol and GTD’s engine on the DSG. I’ve also read that on other forums that the diesel stats are completely unrealistic to achieve anywhere near them, but the petrol ones are optimistic, but not unreasonable. Therefore in real life driving, you’d probably get better mpg from the petrol. If diesel returns to being about 10% more expensive at the pumps like it was for many years, then the petrol choice looks even better.
The GTD does have more spec such as a start button, washer jets for lights, etc, but nothing I’d pay extra for except for it’s exterior styling. I am not a fan of the checked seats on the GTD (although being heated is good).
Just my two pennies. I already have BMW Gran Tourer 218i 1.5 cyl petrol engine which according to manufacturers should be getting around 53 mpg. my average over 4000 miles is 22 mpg. This is with 70% city and 30% motorway driving. The best I have had on a 135 mile motorway run driving at average 50mph is about 37 mpg (calculated – DIS shows 38.2). Please don’t be fooled into thinking a small 3 cylinder engine is efficient. I suppose it does depend on the size of the vehicle too but with my heavy vehicle it is super thirsty!!!
No Peter I have to order an auto and the Gtd has better mpg stats, I’ve taken into account real world driving and that’s why I opted for the R line 1.4 dsg, it is better suited for me.
I did really like the gtd it has a lot more kit as standard, but like you, I’m sorry to say – I thought the seat pattern doesn’t do the car justice, apart from that a stunning car……..
hi just a bit of advice for everyone with VW I ordered my scirocco 2.0 gt black edition with DSG in December and was given a date of the start of March for delivery. It’s now been put back to be built in May then it has to be shipped then pass the port and then delivered to my dealer. this is my first motability car so I’m stuck with no car for an extra 3 months. if I’d have known the timescale I’d have orders elsewhere I’ve contacted VW and the dealer several times and they can’t provide me with a courtesy car. motability have said I can cancel my order but I’d be waiting around 3 months to get another car so there’s no point. I’ve literally been left immobile for an extrav3 months and there’s nothing I can do about it which is quite annoying!! the delay with VW is across the board my cousin ordered a 1.4 golf r line last October and is just picking it up next week the delay is due to him adding extras onto it he’s bought it private not through the motability scheme just to add. Also there’s a massive world wide shortage on DSG gearboxes which is delaying orders. The first black edition scirocco was due for registration on 01/01/2016 there’s still not one in the UK yet. The dealers are still selling cars quoting 3 months when it’s more like 6-7 by the looks so please be careful everyone. If you call VW direct with your tracking number you receive from the dealer they will tell you what unconfirmed build week you car is due to start. I hope this helps a few of you to not end up in my situstion and be without any mobility for extra months.
You are in a position to get a car in stock in a showroom,as you have no car to start with ring round you could be driving in one next week,my vw dealer is great but in preston lancs area,each vw dealers can check uk stock ,to see if they can find one,and collect from another dealer,most help each other out
Sorry forgot to add,if you go to vw website hover over tab for owners you will see track my new car order box click on this .
put in order number you can see the order and date for production
I am not suprised to hear Mark’s comments. I have ordered 3 Golf’s (prior to my most recent one that I’m due to collect next month). All 3 have had a minimum 3 month wait and all 3 had further delays. I did manage to get my last car on time by speaking to their head of Motability. He gave me a list of available vehicles from around the country. I did have to change my first choice colour, but it was worth it.
Luckily my current order is one from stock, so it’s been sat at the dealership for a couple weeks ready cor me to collect.
Hi Peter,
I checked my order on the VW site and it confirms build week commencing 29th Feb.
Can’t wait to get the auto.
I ordered my first motability car a Ford Kuga Titanium X 23rd Dec and collected it last week even though I was told originally that it wouldn’t be ready until the beginning of April.
I would be phoning around other dealers see who has one in stock if its your first car.
Maybe even look at another manufacturer/car if you cant wait the extra time.
they have said to maybe look at a different model they may have in stock but the scirocco GT is more expensive than the GT black edition it’s really strange even they don’t know why you can check yourself on the VW price list. there is no scirocco black editions in the UK yet even though they were due for first registration on 01/01/2016 nobody has one they’ve done a nationwide search. my other alternative is the golf GTD hatchback which will work out £100 cheaper advance payment than what I paid for the scirocco. I really do want the scirocco if I’m honest as much as I love the golf GTD
Do you know if Mercedes will add the c class or cla to the range or if Audi will add the a3 saloon or a4 as there is nothing to compare to the now 3 series that’s on the scheme
dosent anyone from which motability ever reply
Darren, they,l not need to before long anyhow the amount of disabled loosing their higher rate motability there,l be none left to comment on ? IDS fantastic cuts, I know what wants cutting
Darren,
Referring to your Question regarding the Golf GTi and if it will be added to the Scheme, Volkswagen, unlike most other manufacturers, do not have a dedicated contact for Motability issues, the general enquiries line at Volkswagen is 0800 333 666, where Volkswagen will point you to your local dealer who do not have the answer so have to contact someone up the ladder and so it goes on. We do not have a definitive answer but we have experience of dealing with the car manufacturers and understand the way they work and as a result to say we would be surprised if the GTi was added to the Scheme would be an understatement.
Which mobility car,
You say being surprised if the GTI was added to the scheme would be an understatement..why?
Plz help me to understand why you would be surprised,you say its because you understand the way the car manufacturers work,what exactly does this mean?
As i understand it,and correct me if I’m wrong plz,motability operations negotiate with the car manufacturers about primarily the price they can purchase the vehicles for and which vehicles they should purchase and include on the scheme.
I find it hard to comprehend the manufacturers would refuse to sell to a big purchaser like motability,if so why?
After all you can lease just about any vehicle from any other lease company,whats the difference from the car manufacturers point of view?
it seems ludicrous that a company would refuse to sell its produce to a purchaser,unless its the purchaser who sets the rules and the seller provides vehicles within a framework set by the purchaser.
If indeed you do understand why Motability would purchase a VW GTD and include it on the scheme and not the GTI which costs £650 more then i think you should enlighten me and others on here with the same confusion,because i just don’t get it from a logical point of view,for me it is down to politics and politics alone.If you can logically explain then maybe i would be willing to accept it.
The Golf GTD has been on the Scheme before, prior to the price cap you could have a 3 door for a £7123 advance payment, you could even get a Toureg at that time too, but no Golf GTi, that is why we would be surprised if it was added now.
Also people think its the manufacturers not putting them on but its motability who seem to have the final say on what cars are added as DS told me they have proposed the entire new ds3 range be added including the new performance model with 205bhp but they said its in motabilities hands as to whether its added. So its not always the manufacturers saying we can’t have these cars.
So basically you don’t understand why, but hey that’s ok because there is no logic to it and I guess u know there are many anomalies to the scheme.
Matty,you totally miss the point, by the way it’s ok to admit you don’t understand how the schemes negotiators come to their decisions about which cars to include,your sports car comment in this context makes little sense given that on VW website the golf GTI & GTD both come under a sub category of performance golfs along with the R.
Lee,you are in the right ball park, how I see it it is motability who make the decisions for political reasons.
The golf gti won’t ever be on the scheme
Rich,have you a reason for saying this?because there’s only about £650 between the GTD & GTI.
Vw will continue to release cars to the scheme that normally would have been out of reach for the likes of us!! But while they continue to suffer from the emissions scandal they will release better cars to drive their sales. If I was a betting man I reckon it’s odds on that the Gti will appear.
The main reason that I can see the GTI wouldn’t be made available is insurance costs maybe?
I don’t see how the insurance would make a difference , I reckon it’s more to insure a BMW 3-Series or 1-Series and that XC60 Volvo can’t be cheap either
I’m only guessing about insurance. Maybe it’s a combination of that and the fact that the whole daily mail debacle has deemed it unacceptable for these kind of cars to be made available to us. Even if we are prepared to pay the AP on our lease car ( they really aren’t free cars as we all know). I know the rates we pay on some cars are very good but equally some of the smaller cars can be had more cheaply if you use the manufacturer schemes, especially if your mileage over the three years is low. We can but hope that common sense prevails at some stage and the people who make the decisions about these things realise that there are a few disabled people out there that are prepared or are able to pay the higher AP for a slightly sporty car. Controversial as that may be!
The choices of the cars on the scheme is purely down to politics,there are many anomalies if you look a little deeper.
For eg the criteria to join the scheme has nothing to do with that persons income or wealth,ie the qualifying benefits are not means tested,so it follows logically that the scheme should reflect this, however as we know it doesn’t because it puts a limit on the purchase price of vehicles available.This is in its self an anomaly that doesn’t fit with motabilities mission statement.
Which mobility, can you reveal which cars you know of that are pending a decision for inclusion on the scheme?
hi , need some advice please , have ordered a car in manual .should have been here mid April but now might be here next week .My problem is I have been getting pains in my left arm and maybe should have ordered an auto gearbox as I have had these last 5 years ,do I say something now or hope it clears up and also what penalty might I face? .any help please ??
Suggest to speak with Motability and the dealership before taking delivery of the car.
Motability allows early termination and sometimes waves the £250 or £300 fee ( can remember the amount) if they see the reason to be valid.
I thought vw would never put the golf GTD on the scheme
VW sales are poor to say the least!! I wouldn’t be surprised to see the GTI make an appearance, I order on Monday and am torn between GTD or R – Design Edition?????? I’m confused!!
GTD is better equipped
Only reason I’d chose R-Line over GTD is if I wanted petrol rather than Diesel.
Golf GT Edition also now on, the Edition has added sun roof and 18 inch alloys,compared to previous Golf GT ( 17 inch and no sunroof )
The new sportage joined the scheme 6th Feb I think as I saw the gt line on motabilitys website that day.
Thank you Lee, not sure how that slipped through.
The GTD hatch is on the scheme will the gti be added is there anyway of finding out
Hi when will the ford focus st powershift be added? for us disabled drivers as aposed
to disabled passengers who can only drive automatics and would like a sporty and
practical car.